Masterpieces of Ancient Greek Literature

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Professor David J. Schenker, Ph.D.
University of Missouri, Columbia
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All our lives, we've been taught the importance of the ancient Greeks to so much of the world that came after them, and particularly to our own way of living in and seeing that world. Mention politics, philosophy, law, medicine, history, even the visual arts, and we barely scratch the surface of what we owe this extraordinary culture.

How can we best learn about these people who have given us so much; who have deepened and enriched our understanding of ourselves?

We can look to modern historians for perspectives on the origins of their own discipline, and on the two thinkers, Herodotus and Thucydides, whose contributions to that discipline were immense. To political scientists for the links between the U.S. Senate and the councils of Athens. And to teachers of philosophy for insights to illuminate the deepest implications found in Plato.

But there is an entirely different perspective found in another of their great legacies—the classic Greek literature that is still read today and that is still able to engage and enthrall us. Would we find that Herodotus, Thucydides, and Plato might engage us in advanced levels of understanding when their works are examined as not only history or philosophy, but as literature, their words weighed and forms shaped as carefully as those of any poem or drama?

To Know Them Is to Know Ourselves

From the viewpoint of Professor David J. Schenker, the answer is "absolutely yes." In Masterpieces of Ancient Greek Literature he offers a view of literature that roams beyond a common definition of the word. By introducing us to a world that remains far closer than we might imagine, he opens up to us the epics of Homer; the dramatic genius of the playwrights Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides, and Aristophanes; and the poems of Archilochus, Sappho, and many others. He includes some of the world's greatest works of history and philosophy, and he gives rhetoric and oratory their proper due as well.

"We might disagree with the Romantic poet Shelley that 'we are all Greeks,'" Professor Schenker notes. "But we can indeed trace back to them, in some cases through them, much of what makes us who we are today. ... To study the Greeks is a valuable lesson in what we can call cultural literacy. To know them is to know ourselves. Or, as the Roman statesman Cicero said, 'If you don't know where you come from, you'll always be a child.'

"We do, in many ways, come from the Greeks, and in order to function as responsible and productive human beings, it's important that we know something about the Greeks."

Beginning with Homer and the two great epics credited to him, the Iliad and the Odyssey—including a provocative discussion of whether Homer even existed—Professor Schenker offers a wide-ranging overview of the subject that is instructive and entertaining.

For example, you'll learn that the arming scenes so familiar to us in action films, the moments when heroes prepare for the climactic battle—clicking magazines into assault rifles, tossing ammunition belts over shoulders, and slamming sharpened bayonets into scabbards—go all the way back to Homer and perhaps even earlier.

In epics like the Iliad and Odyssey, the tension is built very slowly during a traditional formulaic scene, with the hero shown preparing for battle one piece of armor or a single weapon at a time, donning breastplate, helmet, shield, sword, and other paraphernalia of war one by one before venturing out to meet his opponent.

In another example of Professor Schenker's ability to entertain while he informs, you'll experience a famous moment from Euripides's Medea as its original Athenian audiences might have.

Hear a Change of Language Turn a Statement into a Hiss

After Professor Schenker reads, first in English, an enraged and murderous Medea's tirade to Jason, the lover who has betrayed her, he repeats its famous first line, "I saved your life, and every Greek knows I saved it" in Greek.

Esosa s'os isasin hosoi, he intones, and you hear how the repetitive sibilants must have sounded centuries ago, hovering in the Athenian air like the cold threat of a hissing snake.

That moment's impact echoes throughout the lectures. Professor Schenker presents his material largely chronologically, with occasional breaks to group works by genre. He delivers again and again on what he calls the course's guiding principle: "These are not museum pieces to be venerated because of their age, but works of great literature that remain compelling, meaningful, and enjoyable."

And often startling, as well: Greek authors of the Classical period, including those as revered as Aristophanes, Herodotus, and Plato, did not cede to Homer alone recognition as the originator of Greek literature; they included in the same breath the name of the poet Hesiod (c. 750 B.C.E.). You'll learn about his Theogony, which includes in its 1,000 lines a gold mine of mythological data about the births of the gods and their organization of the world, as well as a compelling narrative about Zeus and his rise to power as king of the gods.

Equally remarkable is the story told of the debut of Aeschylus's The Eumenides, first staged in Athens in 458 B.C.E. It is said to have elicited full-blown terror in its audience. When the Furies—the hideous, avenging spirits roused from sleep by the ghost of the murdered Clytemnestra—appeared in the audience, men shrieked and fainted, and pregnant women miscarried on the spot!

A Partnership of Knowledge and Ruthlessness

The unmatched manuscript collection of the great Library of Alexandria—which, after the death of Alexander the Great, became the intellectual heart of the Greek-speaking world—was assembled through the ruthlessness of the ruling Ptolemies. Visitors to the city, or any arriving ship, had to surrender all manuscripts in their possession for the library's scribes to copy, with the copies returned to their owners and the originals kept by the library! In fact, when the city of Athens allowed the Ptolemies to borrow, with a high security payment, its precious copies of the Athenian tragedies, the Ptolemies chose to forfeit the security payment. Those manuscripts were added to a collection so vast that estimates place its numbers in the hundreds of thousands of volumes.

Almost no complete works by lyric poet Sappho, who is referred to by some in antiquity as the Tenth Muse, have survived. Although her collected works filled nine papyrus scrolls in the Library of Alexandria, most of what we have today, with few exceptions, are fragments—sometimes single lines, often only a word or two—that came from scraps of papyrus or quotations from later authors. Nevertheless, her reputation as one of the ancient world's most passionate voices is secure. The 2005 confirmation of a newly discovered Sappho poem on a piece of papyrus used in a mummy wrapping was, in Professor Schenker's words, "cause for celebration."

The same can be said about Masterpieces of Ancient Greek Literature and the opportunity it gives us to deepen our understanding of a culture that has given us so much. In these ancient works we can confront, as Professor Schenker notes when discussing the Iliad and Odyssey, "timeless questions and problems that define our human condition." Moreover, these questions serve, for us as much as for the ancient Greeks, "as foundation for all that follows."

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36 lectures
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  • 1
    Definitions, Boundaries, and Goals
    We define "ancient," "Greek," and "masterpiece" before moving on to discuss the importance of reading these works and the best ways to do so. x
  • 2
    Homer I—Introduction to Epic and Iliad
    This lecture introduces the Homeric epics, examines how the theory that they were composed orally might influence our reading, and summarizes essential mythological background before moving on to an overview of the Iliad and a deeper discussion of Book 1. x
  • 3
    Homer II—Iliad, The Wrath of Achilles
    We explore the themes and action of books 2–9 of the Iliad, including the poet's imaginative presentation of chronology and a remarkable concentration of scenes that explore the possibility of peace or cooperation in the midst of war. x
  • 4
    Homer III—Iliad, The Return of Achilles
    We complete the Iliad, focusing on Achilles's return to battle and its aftermath, learning that Homer's Achilles is not only Greece's greatest warrior but also a man struggling with the values of his culture and the awareness of his own mortality. x
  • 5
    Homer IV—Odyssey, Introduction and Prelude
    Moving to the second Homeric epic, we compare it to the Iliad, enjoy a brief overview, and consider its structure as a traditional nostos, or return story, before turning to the work itself. x
  • 6
    Homer V—Odyssey, The Adventures
    We discuss the most familiar parts of the Odyssey—the nine-year journey from Troy to Ithaca—learning much about the psychic and emotional distance Odysseus has also traveled as he prepares to return to a life of peace at home. x
  • 7
    Homer VI—Odyssey, Reintegration
    This lecture covers books 13–24, following the adventures of Odysseus on Ithaca as he completes his return, before concluding with some comments on the continuing power and relevance of the Homeric epics through the ages. x
  • 8
    Hesiod—Theogony and Works and Days
    We look at two works that share much with the Homeric poems in the form and manner of their composition but also exhibit considerable differences in presenting both a creation myth and a commentary on interactions with both humans and gods. x
  • 9
    Homeric Hymns
    There is much we do not know about the poems referred to collectively as Homeric Hymns: Who composed them? When? For what purpose? The two examples considered in this lecture reveal much about the complex Greek attitudes toward the divine. x
  • 10
    Lyric Poetry I—Archilochus and Solon
    This is the first of two lectures on a group of poems composed from about the mid-7th through the mid-5th century B.C.E. Although often personal, erotic, and confessional, they can also be strikingly public and political in their themes. x
  • 11
    Lyric Poetry II—Sappho and Alcaeus
    We consider several types of melic poetry (from melos, meaning song), including works by Sappho and Alcaeus, and ponder why this type of public song effectively died out by the end of the 5th century. x
  • 12
    Tragedy—Contexts and Conventions
    In the first of 13 lectures that address Athenian drama of the Golden Age, we focus on tragedy as produced by Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides and introduce the genre's roots, mechanics, and conventions. x
  • 13
    Aeschylus I—Persians
    We discuss the life and some aspects of the dramatic technique of Aeschylus, the oldest of the three great Athenian tragedians, and we look at the earliest of his extant plays. x
  • 14
    Aeschylus II—Agamemnon
    In this lecture and the next, we discuss Aeschylus's Oresteia, the only tragic trilogy that survives intact from antiquity, beginning with its brilliant first play, which introduces the trilogy's many interwoven themes and questions. x
  • 15
    Aeschylus III—Libation Bearers and Eumenides
    We see Aeschylus continue to explore the themes of Agamemnon in the second and third plays of the trilogy and then look back over all three to consider possible interpretations. x
  • 16
    Sophocles I—Ajax and Philoctetes
    We begin our examination of the most popular and successful of the three giants of 5th-century Athenian drama with an introduction to his life and some of the innovations and techniques of his work; then we look at two of his seven extant plays, Ajax and Philoctetes. x
  • 17
    Sophocles II—Oedipus the King
    Although Sophocles's three Theban plays are not a trilogy, they are best considered together because they follow the same story. After introducing the mythology, we move into Sophocles's treatment of the early part of the myth in Oedipus the King. x
  • 18
    Sophocles III—Oedipus at Colonus and Antigone
    We discuss the other two Theban plays: Oedipus at Colonus, a work of Sophocles's old age, which gives us the end of Oedipus's life, and Antigone, which takes us back to Thebes and the strife among Oedipus's successors. x
  • 19
    Euripides I—Electra, Orestes, Trojan Women
    The next three lectures are devoted to selected tragedies of Euripides. We begin here with some historical and cultural background, which is especially important because Euripides's work serves as a vivid witness to the intellectual and political ferment of the later 5th century. x
  • 20
    Euripides II—Medea and Hippolytus
    In Medea, Euripides creates one of the most compelling female roles in theater history, while in Hippolytus, the role he gives to the gods contributes to an ongoing discussion about Euripides's attitude toward traditional religion. x
  • 21
    Euripides III—The Bacchae
    Euripides's final play, produced only posthumously, has been interpreted both as a criticism of the traditional view of the gods and also as an admission that he has been wrong to question the role of the Olympians in the lives of mortals. x
  • 22
    Aristophanes I—Introduction to Old Comedy
    We introduce the other theatrical genre that developed in 5th-century Athens. Although comedy shares some of the conventions and components of tragedy, it takes us, in many ways, into a different world. x
  • 23
    Aristophanes II—Acharnians and Lysistrata
    The Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta lasted 27 years (431–404 B.C.E.), a period that coincided with the height of Aristophanes's career. We examine two of the several comedies he wrote that directly address aspects of that war. x
  • 24
    Aristophanes III—The Frogs and The Clouds
    During Aristophanes's career, Athens was at the forefront of intellectual and cultural changes, and those innovations underlie several of his comedies. We look at two of them and conclude our discussion with a brief look at comedy after Aristophanes. x
  • 25
    Herodotus I—Introduction to History
    We begin our discussion of history with the man who has been called both the father of history—as the first practitioner of the genre as we know it—and the father of lies for his many so-called digressions and fantastic stories. x
  • 26
    Herodotus II—The Persian Wars
    Herodotus's narrative approach offers historical depth, geographical breadth, and mythological background, often in the form of self-contained stories. Do these stories contribute to the history? Or do they lead us to suspect even the most straightforward and seemingly pertinent parts of it? x
  • 27
    Thucydides I—The Peloponnesian War
    At the beginning of his History of the Peloponnesian War, Thucydides introduces himself as a different sort of historian—accurate, scientific, and careful of sources. Although he was more modern in his methods than Herodotus, questions about his objectivity and bias remain. x
  • 28
    Thucydides II—Books 1–5
    We discuss three famous passages from books 1–5, examining how Thucydides uses the Peloponnesian War as a stage for his larger considerations of human nature, particularly as it manifests itself in times of crisis. x
  • 29
    Thucydides III—Books 6–7
    Books 6 and 7 are something of a departure from the rest of the work, a self-contained unit on the Athenians' ill-fated expedition against Syracuse in Sicily. What begins with optimism and unparalleled wealth ends in complete and utter defeat for the Athenians. x
  • 30
    Plato I—The Philosopher as Literary Author
    We examine some of the literary qualities that appear throughout Plato's philosophical dialogues, focusing not on the philosophical ideas or systems that might be extracted from the dialogues, but at the way Plato has chosen to present those ideas. x
  • 31
    Plato II—Symposium
    Beginning an examination of two of Plato's most polished literary masterpieces with The Symposium, we see that distinctions between its philosophical and literary parts are impossible to draw, and that it is best read as the seamless whole Plato gave us. x
  • 32
    Plato III—Phaedrus
    The twists and turns of what seems merely a dialogue about love and rhetoric reveal Socrates's subtle and careful attempts to engage his interlocutor—and, by extension, Plato's readers—in a more serious study of philosophy. x
  • 33
    Rhetoric and Oratory
    From Homer on, Greek literature reveals a deep interest in the role and power of speeches. We consider some examples from other literary genres to see the evolution of rhetoric as a formal discipline. x
  • 34
    Hellenistic Poetry I—Callimachus and Theocritus
    With the next two lectures, we move into a new world, away from mainland Greece to Alexandria, from the democracy of the city-state to far-reaching monarchies, and from public forms of literature to works that demand of their audience more specialized forms of knowledge. x
  • 35
    Hellenistic Poetry II—Apollonius
    We look at the single extant epic poem from the Hellenistic period, an account of Jason's quest for the Golden Fleece. This lecture brings us full circle, taking us back to the Homeric epics that so clearly influenced this work. x
  • 36
    Looking Back and Looking Forward
    This concluding lecture examines the survival and continued influence of Greek literature. We see that it was largely through the Romans that Greek literature survived antiquity, and largely through the literary activity of the Hellenistic period that the Romans accessed the Greeks. x

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David J. Schenker, Ph.D.
University of Missouri, Columbia
Dr. David J. Schenker is Associate Professor of Classical Literature at the University of Missouri-Columbia, where he has taught since 1991. Dr. Schenker earned his Ph.D. in Classics from the University of California, Berkeley. Professor Schenker was a recipient of the 2006 American Philological Association Awards for Excellence in Teaching. At the University of Missouri-Columbia, he has won several teaching awards, including...
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Masterpieces of Ancient Greek Literature is rated 4.6 out of 5 by 37.
Rated 3 out of 5 by from I was disappointed by this series of lectures, for two major reasons: a) The professor speaks so. unnaturally. slowly. it. sounds. like. he's. teaching. grade. one. I had to check my ipod to make sure it wasn't accidentally on slow-motion. b) The professor did not delve in any interesting way into the literature he presents. He merely offers plot summaries of each work. I understand that because of the nature of the course, he can't spend an incredible amount of time going into deep detail, but I wanted something more substantial than a brief summary. I am sure the professor is an expert in what he does, sadly, it just didn't come across in a very exciting way in this course.
Date published: 2016-08-30
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Filled in my gaps... This is one of those "What I should have learned in school" series in Greek literature that illuminates human relational struggles and puts them in today's context with moral and social struggles that continue to challenge us today. Without the interpretive explanation I doubt my gleanings from the ancient verses would have mined such insights he provided. Corson
Date published: 2016-08-02
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Superlative! In this substantial series of 36 lectures, Professor David Schenker discusses major literary works of Ancient Greece including comedies, tragedies, orations, history and philosophy. Though he never seems to be rushed, he covers all the time periods of Ancient Greece, from the Archaic to the Hellenistic. In the very last lecture, he even briefly discusses the importance of ancient Greek literature from the Roman Empire to the present. Many interested in the topic have certainly followed ‘Great Courses‘ lectures on the topic given by Elizabeth Vandiver and found her an excellent pedagogue. Well, Professor Schenker manages to be even better. He never assumes that the listener has read a work or indeed will and summarizes each in sensible detail. His approach is very down to earth and, without being condescending, he makes sure he can be well understood. Though he is certainly fascinated by his field, his tone remains poised and natural. No one will regret buying this exceptional offering.
Date published: 2016-05-23
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Read a lot of new (to me) books I perhaps am biased in favor of this course because the Instructor devoted six lectures to Homer, who is one of my favorite authors, but I found all kinds of things to enjoy. He had three lectures on Thucydides' book on the Peloponnesian War, so I got a copy. Wow! What a wonderful book! I also learned a great deal about some Greek playwrights, whose work I had not read for many years if at all. In fact, it took me quite awhile to get through the 36 lectures, as I had to keep stopping to read a book. But it was absolutely worth the time, and these are important works in European intellectual history. I'll probably listen to the whole set again.
Date published: 2016-05-13
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Thoroughly enjoyed this course I enjoyed learning about Greek literature. Professor Shenker does a fantastic job bringing to life the works of Aeschylus, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Euripides etc.
Date published: 2015-08-24
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Accessible and Engaging For many of us, although we might have become acquainted with aspects of ancient Greek literature through college courses on drama or philosophy, subsequent years of the demands of work and family have served to allow these works -- and their enduring legacy -- to fade in memory. Happily, this thoroughly engaging course by Professor Schenker exposes us to both those we might once have read, as well as many we might not have known existed. Dr. Shenker avoids overloading us with extensive recitations directly from the texts themselves, although he ably chooses passages from the texts he references to give us the flavor and style of the ancient authors. He also helpfully gives us the context for each poet or author under study, as well as the political and cultural developments shaping, or to which reference is given in, each work. Thus, one gains a helpful overview of the history of ancient Greek as something of a welcome sidebar to the central focus of the work. From the time of the Persian wars at the beginning of the 5th century BCE through the Peloponnesian wars of the latter 5th century to the fall of Grecian independence under the forces of Alexander the Great in the 4th century, the Greek people certainly lived in "interesting times." While poems are often about, or tragic plays concern, various myths and the multiple gods of the Greek pantheon, clearly the events of their own history influenced and informed the authors and their audiences. "Greek tragedy," of course, as we know all too well, has hardly been reserved to the Greek stage or to the Greek people. The patterns of human nature explored in these ancient works remain central to our contemporary behavior as we repeatedly see similar patterns of arrogance, ignorance, and hubris played out in political and cultural events of our own time. I commend Dr. Schenker for his consistently pleasant and informed presentation, and for his extremely well organized series of lectures. As we move from one lecture to another, he always helps us see the continuity between the present work under study and those works or authors which influenced it. Very informative and enjoyable!
Date published: 2014-12-07
Rated 3 out of 5 by from Good, but not great. I have recently listened to Elizabeth Vandiver's course on Greek tragedy, and it is interesting to compare the two courses. At first I thought Prof Vandiver engaged in quite a bit of summarizing of the texts and not enough analysis, but it turns out that Prof Schenker does even more summarizing. I suppose that is the consequence of this sort of course, where the teacher can't assume that we have read the texts, but there needs to be a way around that. So what you end up with in this course is that probably 80% of each lecture is the teacher going through and summarizing whatever the text or topic is for that lecture, often in a sort of repetitive way. That is, he will state what the text says, and then restate it with some emphasis of some sort. And then only near the very end of the lecture does he make a very few comments or suggestions about interpretive issues. Looking back at prof Vandiver's course, I see now that she was better about introducting some interpretive categories a the beginning of each lecture, then using those categories to work through, rather than just summarize, the text/play at hand. I think you actually learn more from this approach than from prof Schenker's largely summarizing approach. At the end you'll have a survey-type knowledge of the main genres of Greek literature, but not a real analytic grasp of much.
Date published: 2014-10-16
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great Overview This is one of the better Great Courses on ancient literature. The professor is engaging and makes good contemporary connections. It is just an overview, not in-depth on any of the authors (e.g., 3 courses each on the Iliad and Odyssey), but hits on most of the important background and themes. There are very few visuals, but the professor is good so I didn't really mind.
Date published: 2014-08-22
Rated 5 out of 5 by from A triumph ~ teaching at its best ! DVD REVIEW: A gem! A wonderful, well-organised course which comprises a solid overview of Greek literature delivered by a professor who is easy to listen to, clear and perfectly-paced. He takes on Homer's Iliad and Odyssey with ease, offering explanations that help bring these important ancient stories into sharp focus; even if you're familiar with them, I suspect you may well encounter new aspects and angles, thanks to Dr Schenker's deep knowledge of and enthusiasm for the Classics. His lectures continue with expert treatments including masterful lectures on Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War and Books 1-7... ending with Hellenistic poetry. The course is a treat, unhesitatingly-recommended to all; it is a marvellous start to move on to the Great Courses' in-depth series on, for example, The Iliad, The Odyssey, Herodotus, and Greek Tragedy.
Date published: 2013-03-04
Rated 5 out of 5 by from An excellent survey course This course covered A LOT of ancient Greek literature. It took me approximately 8 months to do all of the reading associated with it. Fortunately, the instructor covers a good bit of plot in his discussions (so one would not have to do all of the reading if one so chose). The instructor's discussions were clear and interesting. I used the opportunity to also study the mini-courses of the Iliad and Odyssey -- which provided additional depth. Well worth the effort. Thank you for this course.
Date published: 2012-04-06
Rated 4 out of 5 by from excellent overview this is an excellent introduction to ancient Greek Literature and Prof. Schenker showed great enthusiasm and mastery of the subject. Having studied a bit on Greek literature and history, I found this course very easy to follow, and enjoyed the presentations greatly. It may be better to use this as the intro course, and then go on to specific courses of the Iliad, Odyssey and Herodotus.
Date published: 2011-08-13
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Nicely Done Survey; Breadth, Not Depth This is a well done overview of the best known works and genres of ancient Greek literature. It is a great place to start for those with little familiarity with this area, for it provides an organized tour, touching on the highlights, with enough description to enable the neophyte to understand what these works are all about. As others have noted, the course does not provide an in-depth analysis or critique of individual works. How could it? The course is 18 hours long, less time than it would take me to read the Iliad alone. (All right, I'm a slow reader, but even so . . .) Analysis is not entirely lacking; what there is, however, is necessarily superficial. A minor criticism is that Prof. Schenker seems to consider it his duty to defend the works against any negative assessments of others, which he at least occasionally brings up. A more balanced approach would have been appreciated. Even masterpieces are not perfect. A bit more problematic is Prof. Schenker's prosaic style of reading when he quotes from the works. While a literature professor need not be a great thespian, at least some effort at a dramatic reading - especially when reading poetry and drama! - would have added a great deal to the listening experience. So - I recommend this course especially for those with little or no prior knowledge. But for Zeus's sake, don't stop here! The other TGC courses on ancient literature are mostly outstanding. And hopefully Prof. Schenker's course will inspire his listeners - as I'm sure is his goal - to read the works themselves.
Date published: 2011-06-16
Rated 2 out of 5 by from 4.7 stars? really? At the time of this writing, this course had a star rating of 4.7. I have trouble understanding why. I bought this course as a gift for my mom, who knew Prof. Schenker at the University of Missouri. She also is a "Hellenophile" by nature. I, too, was ready to get into the classics. Even with this predisposition to enjoy the course, we couldn't make it through the first few lectures. I picked it up again, to give it another chance. Same result. The primary shortcoming is the lecturer. For me, he dragged down the content. I'm very pleased that this course was enjoyable to others. By all means, give a fair shake to others reviews.
Date published: 2011-02-27
Rated 3 out of 5 by from Outstanding - if somewhat shallow - Survey Dr. Schenker provides a superb introduction to Ancient Greek literature. The scope of the course is comprehensive, and Dr. Schenker's delivery is outstanding. My sole complaint about this course concerns its lack of illuminating analysis. Dr. Schenker devotes the majority of his time to guiding his listeners through plots. If his goal was to introduce the plots of these masterpieces to those who have had only limited contact with them, then he has succeeded; however, those who have read some or many of the works discussed in this course may grow a bit frustrated (as I did) simply listening to a retelling of stories with which they are already familiar. I do not want to suggest that Dr. Schenker provides no analysis. I am only saying that his analysis is limited (perhaps by design), not very satisfying, and certainly not on par with the insights provided by Drs. Sugrue (for Plato – an older course, but one I highly recommend), Vandiver (for Homer, Herodotus, and the tragedians – solid, through and through), and Fears (for various authors, especially Herodotus, Sophocles, and Aristophanes), all of whom were much more successful in integrating analysis into their storytelling. In sum, if you are looking for a course that introduces the plots of the Ancient Greek masterpieces, then I recommend this course. Conversely, if you are familiar with the works of this course, require only a limited retelling of the stories, and are in search of a greater understanding of the context out of which these works emerged and their meaning both to the authors’ contemporaries and to us, then I do not recommend this course.
Date published: 2010-09-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Fills in the gaps of the other courses I loved the new poem by Sappho. Elizabeth Vandervier had not known about this poem when she taught her course. What a pleasant surprise for us to have something new after so long. This course fills in the gaps of the other courses on Greek Tragedy and Mythology. It is not as repetitious. It also covers other poets, lyric, epic, etc, not mentioned or gone into detail elsewhere. Definitely this course expands on the others, and brings it together. Will enjoy listening to again and again.
Date published: 2009-09-16
Rated 5 out of 5 by from A Truly Great Survey AUDIO CD: I've listened to so may TTC courses on the Greeks that I was hesitant about ordering this course. I'm glad I did. Prof. Schenker is a great lecturer who offers new and relevant insights in this survey of the great Greek literary works. In college I took a wonderful graduate course in Homer, and I've listened to The TTC courses on The Iliad and The Odyssey, and STILL Prof. Schenker managed to offer some fascinating new insights on Homer. He also does the job with the Homeric Hymns, Sappho, the tragedians, Aristaphanes, the historians, and Plato. This is a great place to start if you want a solid survey of Greek literature by a great speaker. From here you can drill more deeply into the individual works in other courses.
Date published: 2009-03-09
Rated 5 out of 5 by from This course was a very pleasant surprise. Having listened to the older TC courses on Greek Tragedy, Iliad of Homer, and Odessey of Homer I was expecting just a review but the course completely complements the earlier three courses and covers additional material. The lecturers style allows this course to flow smoothly and seamlessly between authors and eras. You will enjoy this course.
Date published: 2009-02-10
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Prof. David J. Schenker did not exhibit any judeo-christian bias or any condenension towards greco pagan religion and was respectful towards their religion which I greatly appreciated and which is sometimes missing in the Teaching Co. Bravo! for Prof. Sc
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great lessons presentation, easy to follow, pleasant voice, intonation an at report card grade.
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Wonderful course! Opened my eyes to ancient Greek history!
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Prof. Schenker is an outstanding teacher.
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 4 out of 5 by from My four year degree from college pushed me to new levels - Financially! but self-studies have truly made me an educated man of the world, and the Teaching Company is the tool I use to do it.
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from This course is magnificent. If I had had a teacher like Professor Schenkes in my early school years I can only dream of the change it would have made in my life.
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Prof. Schenker is an incredibly engaging teacher. I would love to see him offer another course on Classical Greece.
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from I'm learning about subjects I never had time for in college, and the courses give me a firm foundation for reading and investigating further on my own.
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Loved it!
Date published: 2008-10-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from The many courses I have listened to have enriched my life and deepened my learning.
Date published: 2008-10-17
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