Science and Religion

Course No. 4691
Professor Lawrence M. Principe, Ph.D.
Johns Hopkins University
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Two crucial forces, science and religion, helped shape Western civilization and continue to interact in our daily lives. What is the nature of their relationship? When do they conflict, and how do they influence each other in pursuit of knowledge and truth? Contrary to prevailing notions that they must perpetually clash, science and theology have actually been partners in an age-old adventure. This course covers both the historical sweep and philosophical flashpoints of this epic interaction.

Professor Lawrence M. Principe unfolds a surprisingly cooperative dynamic in which theologians and natural scientists share methods, ideas, aspirations, and a tradition of disputational dialogue.

St. Augustine warned that it is dangerous for religious people to ignore science: "Many non-Christians are well versed in natural knowledge, so they can detect vast ignorance in such a Christian and laugh it to scorn." He added that interpretation of biblical passages must be informed by the current state of demonstrable knowledge.

On the other hand, Sir Isaac Newton freely discusses the attributes and activities of God in Principia Mathematica, which sets forth his theory of gravity and laws of motion.

These examples represent the traditional relationship of science and religion that is too often obscured by the divisive, hot-headed rhetoric and the gross oversimplifications we often see in today's headlines. Long before the shouting and the sloganeering, scientists and theologians pursued a unity of truth, and most theologians have agreed with the advice of Galileo's colleague, Cardinal Baronio, that the Bible "tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go."

Once we understand this, we have a new perspective on many present-day controversies. The current antievolution furor, for example, centers on the fixation that Genesis 1 should be taken literally, an issue that had been resolved by theologians long ago. Professor Principe deems it "astonishingly trivial" and guides you through far more interesting arguments of advanced theology about powers and limits of human knowledge—the difficulty of identifying causation, and the means by which God acts in the world. He shows how science gives theologians powerful tools for enriching, not contradicting, their understanding of ultimate truths.

The Search for Answers

You will explore questions that are important to all religions, but the focus is on interactions in the "Latin West" where modern science largely took root. This includes formerly Latin-speaking Western European and Mediterranean regions, and the offspring of European culture, North America. The course spotlights the predominant religion of these lands: Christianity.

Our search is punctuated by Professor Principe's wit and passion. In a review of one of his previous courses, AudioFile magazine acclaimed him as "clearly a master of his subject. Equally clear is his passion for teaching it." With fluency in three ancient languages, Professor Principe is a student's living link to the primary sources he has read and studied in their original languages. Through his reading of such texts as the original minutes of the Inquisition, for example, he is able to grant you the rare opportunity to read between the lines of what was written. In addition, the professor holds faculty appointments in three diverse fields—history of science, philosophy, and chemistry—which allow him to synthesize materials across disciplines and convey the big picture with stunning clarity. His lectures are colored with the passion of someone who has devoted a lifetime to exploring the interaction of science and religion.

Moving from the early centuries of the Christian era and the Middle Ages to our own day, he exposes the truth about the Galileo Affair and provides a revealing picture of the circuslike Scopes Trial.

You will share St. Augustine's profound ideas about reason and faith. Follow St. Thomas Aquinas's exploration of miracles—the need to identify them is one example of how scientific and theological inquiry overlap. Meet a 19th-century writer whose anti-Catholic diatribe spread myths that persist today.

Learn about the courage (and stubbornness) of Galileo, the unexpected rationality of his accusers, the inspiration of Darwin's natural selection, and the religious implications of Lemaître's Big Bang.

As Professor Principe claims, the solution to this modern conflict is easy—it is the study of history. Such study will equip you to join that partnership with a vocabulary of ideas and a clear, historical perspective on the science/religion relationship. These tools will help you participate more effectively in a dialogue that is as immediate and thought-provoking today as it was hundreds of years ago.

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  • 1
    Science and Religion
    In this introductory lecture, we define the basic terms of the course, its content, methodology, and focus. This course deals with the interactions of Christianity with science in the Western world over a long time span. We look closely at the words science and religion to prepare for consistent discussions in subsequent lectures. We look at models for the interactions of science and religion, critique them, and provide pointers for engaging with the balance of the course. x
  • 2
    The Warfare Thesis
    We examine one form of historical relationship between science and religion—the warfare or conflict thesis. Advanced in the late 19th century by John William Draper and Andrew Dickson White, it has continued strong in popular thought to the present day. We create a catalogue of methodological errors and fallacies for all readers of history to guard against. x
  • 3
    Faith and Reason—Scripture and Nature
    In this lecture, we confront some basic concepts in the science-religion question: What are legitimate means of acquiring sure knowledge, and where can we can obtain such knowledge? We examine approaches to means and sources in the Christian tradition, in St. Augustine's 5th-century writings, and more recently in the important 1998 papal encyclical Fides et ratio. x
  • 4
    God and Nature—Miracles and Demons
    This lecture approaches the nature of causation and our ability to identify it accurately. A crucial point of contact between science and religion is the question of the extent of God's involvement: naturalistic explanations versus divine intervention. Views of the state of the spiritual world influence and form one's views toward the natural world and science. x
  • 5
    Church, Copernicus, and Galileo
    We look at the "Galileo affair." Far from being a simple case of science versus religion, however, it is extremely complex and brings up a host of important philosophical, scientific, and other issues that must be understood in context. x
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    Galileo’s Trial
    This lecture examines the latter phase of the Galileo affair, presents explanations of the events, and looks at how these events have been used, abused, and re-examined to the present day. Of particular importance are the arguments made on both sides about the relative intellectual roles of science and faith and the levels of certainty we can have about each. x
  • 7
    God the Watchmaker
    The 17th-century idea of a mechanical universe functioning like a great clockwork implied creative actions of a divine mechanist but simultaneously distanced him from creation. Natural philosophers had to deal with deep-seated fears over the new growth of irreligion, and atheism provided a new context. This lecture surveys some of the means used to address this idea by Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, and others. x
  • 8
    Natural Theology and Arguments from Design
    Some authors have used the natural world to argue for the existence of the deity. This lecture examines the emergence and content of natural theology. Recently, intelligent design has appeared as a further step in the track of natural theology. This lecture looks at historical features of both approaches and their limitations. x
  • 9
    Geology, Cosmology, and Biblical Chronology
    How old is the Earth and the universe? This lecture looks at attempts to date the Earth, the hints that it is vastly older than the Bible implies, and the responses from religious figures to this dating. Historical "battle lines" between rival interpretations of both the Earth's and the universe's ages and origins do not map out on simple religion/science lines but, instead, reveal a more complex picture rooted largely in social and professional differences. x
  • 10
    Darwin and Responses to Evolution
    Like Galileo, Charles Darwin occupies a central position in discussions of science and religion. This lecture looks at Darwin's theory of evolution and its complex reception in context. Darwin's natural selection and common ancestry ideas provoked a range of responses from religious and scientific figures. x
  • 11
    Fundamentalism and Creationism
    Despite acceptance of evolutionary ideas by naturalists and prominent theologians in 1900, those ideas have also marked the 20th century with strongest-ever science-religion conflict. This lecture looks at the 1925 Scopes Trial, a high point in the fundamentalist crusade against evolution, and the invention of creation science and flood geology. There's an analysis of the background and social foundations of American fundamentalism, a force that still plays an adversarial role with modern science. x
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    Past, Present, and Future
    In this concluding lecture, we survey the course and place our own times in historical context. No single description can aptly describe the complexity of science/religion interactions in Christianity over time. Most current clashes occur between extremists—religious and scientific fundamentalists. A historical perspective is the best way to transcend and defuse such clashes. x

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Lawrence M. Principe, Ph.D.
Johns Hopkins University
Dr. Lawrence M. Principe is Drew Professor of the Humanities at Johns Hopkins University. Professor Principe earned a B.S. in Chemistry and a B.A. in Liberal Studies from the University of Delaware. He also holds two doctorates: a Ph.D. in Organic Chemistry from Indiana University, Bloomington, and a Ph.D. in the History of Science from Johns Hopkins University. In 1999, the Carnegie Foundation chose Professor Principe as the...
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Science and Religion is rated 4.1 out of 5 by 155.
Rated 2 out of 5 by from Disappointing I recently received my copy of Science and Religion with Lawrence Principe and have listened to all the lectures. I was impressed with the first few lectures, particularly his discussion of the origins of the so-called war between science and religion. However, when he got to natural theology and used that as a lead-in to discuss Intelligent Design (ID), he blew it badly. His cheap shots at ID used most of the cliches and tired arguments promoted by the pro-Darwin lobby. When he addressed evolution, it was easy to understand his antipathy to ID. He clearly has blindly accepted Neo-Darwinian evolution as a solid theory and is blissfully unaware of its massive failings. It turns out that he is just another Darwin apologist who cannot imagine that perhaps Darwin got it wrong.
Date published: 2019-01-11
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Makes clear the real issues. I listened to this, then selected parts. Now, I'm listening to it with a group of friends and we're discussing our own experiences in light of the context provided.
Date published: 2018-12-31
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Fascinating, Important, Wonderfully Taught; ForAll This is an outstanding course in all respects, which I truly recommend for everyone. The vigorous interaction of science and religion has been of major importance to human self-understanding for centuries, and shows no signs of letting up. In this very brief course, Professor Principe takes on the challenge of reviewing its history, outlining the relevant philosophy, correcting common misconceptions, and providing a clear understanding of the religion-science interaction. Remarkably, he succeeds in all of these - allowing, again, for the necessarily summary nature of the material presented, given the available time. Perhaps the key point is that science and religion are not mutually exclusive. Many (perhaps most) scientists were and are religious, and it is entirely possible to view nature and humanity from both a scientific and a religious perspective without contradiction or irrationality. To be clear, Professor Principe is not saying science and religion are equivalent, or that they provide the same understanding of our world or our lives. He is very clear about their differences, but views them as complementary rather than antagonistic. Further, I strongly disagree with those reviews which see this course as a religious apologia, or defense. I happen to be an agnostic who, if I had to, would bet that atheists are correct, but I found nothing here biased towards religion. What is true is that the insights provided go a long way towards helping those in opposing camps, whether scientific or religious, to better understand each other. Be aware that the course, despite its general title, specifically treats Western scientific history and Christianity. But I feel the lessons learned can be applied much more broadly. The brilliant final lecture should be pondered by all who see science and religion as inherently at odds - and it would be wonderful if many of today's politicians took note of its wider implications as well: "Their arguments tend to harden positions and create division where it need not exist. The perception of the controversy ignores the vast field of cooperation and intelligent conversation by the majority in between." I have only a few tiny quibbles. I don't think our professor provides a correct interpretation of Stephen Jay Gould's idea that science and religion are "non-overlapping magisteria." And we need to give ostriches more credit - they don't put their heads in the sand because they think this will hide them. But, again - "Science and Religion", despite its brevity, is a wonderful course, both for the fascination of its subject matter and the meaning it has for our lives, not to mention the outstanding teaching. Try to approach it without bias. I sincerely recommend it to everyone.
Date published: 2018-11-14
Rated 5 out of 5 by from A history that changed my thinking. This thoughtful and well informed discussion from an historical perspective is quite interesting and definitely changed by thinking on this subject.
Date published: 2018-09-16
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Great course, wrong title Fortunately, the professor corrects this in the first lecture, rightly emphasizing this course is about the interaction between science and Western Christianity. If understood in this context, then this was highly enjoyable. Maybe a future course could explore intersections between Judaism, Islam, and Eastern Christianity with science and technology.
Date published: 2018-06-20
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Professor, you proved your point! Professor Principe opened by saying (in effect) that science and religion had overlap. While I had already considered that to be the case, I had no idea how much breadth and depth that overlap entailed.
Date published: 2018-06-03
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Reconciling Evolution Theories and Religion This course is an interesting historical look at Catholic popes, priests and theologians who were also involved in scientific exploration. This professor teaches chemistry, but his Catholic perspective tends to disregard other writings by theologians during and since the protestant reformation era. He makes it clear that the treatises and edits of the Catholic church most accurately reflect Christian teachings about science and evolution. Although easy to listen to and follow, his elite perspectives on both science and religion seem a bit intolerant of those whose relationship with God is faith-based. He seems to feel that fundamentalists' beliefs about God and the Bible and creation result from a lack of education, and with more theological education, their views would change about the relationship of Religion and Science.
Date published: 2018-04-28
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Thoughtful, balanced I purchased this course several years ago and have listened to it at least 10 times. I'm listening to it again. Every time through I hear more and become more impressed by just how balanced the professor is. He is not taking a position for one field over the other. Rather, he shows how, until relatively recently, both science and religion were seen as quests for knowledge and truth - one by means of faith and one by means of reason and how, again until recently, there was considerable overlap between the fields. One may arrive at one's own conclusions on the merits of one field of study over the other, but the professor does not do this for you. Rather, the listener is given information that can help one pursue one's own quest for knowledge and truth. Can you really ask more of a college level course? Highly recommend this course.
Date published: 2018-02-15
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Superb! This is a very absorbing set of lectures on an important topic. I had read the speaker's "The Scientific Revolution: a very short introduction" so I knew his is a very learned and keen analysis. The course covered a much longer period of time and was fascinating from beginning to end. Super helpful, and also very engaging.
Date published: 2018-01-04
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Best Christmas gift 2017 Was a gift from a friend, listened to it with great interest within a few days and am starting to listen again. It's a rare books or audio medium that shifts my mind in some big way, and this did it for me.
Date published: 2018-01-02
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Science and Religion Well presented and quite scholarly. Probably best for college level learners. Being able to replay the lectures affords the ability to better understand the topics.
Date published: 2017-09-11
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Is Christianity a remnant of the Medieval Period? After watching this course you may have to ask yourself, "Could Christianity be a remnant of the Medieval period?" This set of lectures by Professor Principe is exactly what I expected from a scholar who knows his subject material well. His lectures are fresh, well planned and insightful. He has also sprinkled excellent photos and artwork throughout the lectures. Well done.
Date published: 2017-05-31
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Remarkably enlightening Every lesson opens doors of discovery and explanation of the interplay of these two great forces in our history, society, and culture. Dr. Principe clearly defines his terms and clearly shows fallacies in modern thinking about these topics. Wonderfully illuminating.
Date published: 2017-05-28
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Religious theory vs. Science facts The professor is very captivating. I enjoy it a lot.
Date published: 2017-05-17
Rated 5 out of 5 by from The information on the course was outstanding had some good points on how to look at Science and Religion.
Date published: 2017-04-29
Rated 1 out of 5 by from condescending I enjoy Great Courses a lot, and expect the professors to treat their participants as high-level intelligent students who like to be given information and draw our own conclusions. I'm not sure I understand the point of this course. I expected to be informed of scientific and religious influences, and let us think for ourselves from there. After watching the first three lectures, I know how the author feels about his topics but don't feel like I've learned anything or been given thought-provoking information for me to evaluate for myself. Besides that, the lecturer draws things out. Why did it take him a whole lecture to define his terms?
Date published: 2017-02-03
Rated 1 out of 5 by from I had hoped to hear rational thoughts that would dispel my belief that the difference between the religious "way of knowing" and the scientific method are irreconcilable. I did not.
Date published: 2017-01-21
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Refreshing Perspective These lectures are a must for anyone who holds the assumption that religion and science are in opposing camps. They have provided a means for me to reconcile certain religious and philosophical tensions that I have held due to ubiquitous mainstream polemics.
Date published: 2016-12-27
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Excellent Course, wish it was longer Most professors selected by the Great Courses are exceptional teachers, but I thought this series of lectures stood out in their presentation. Professor Principe is an engaging lecturer who has the gift of speaking with authority, good humor, and clarity - a rare combination. The topic is interesting, and well represented. One criticism that I have seen leveled at this course is that it primarily addresses Catholicism, and more broadly Christianity, while not dealing with Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and other religions. This is addressed by Professor Principe in the first lecture, and justified quite reasonably given the length of the course.
Date published: 2016-12-14
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Presents views of Catholic Church The professor says that it requires the same leap of faith to accept scientific principles as it does to accept that there is a supernatural being. I suspect that few scientists would agree with this premise. The only supernatural being that is discussed is the Yahweh god. The thousands of other gods created by humans, and worshiped today, are never mentioned. The professor seems to be following the party line of the Catholic Church to the letter. He quotes at length encyclicals and other pronouncements by the Popes, and explains why the Church's positions on various topics, like evolution, are the most reasonable. But it was an interesting course, and the presentation was good.
Date published: 2016-11-25
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Bundle it This course should be bundled with What Science Knows. Essentially this course discusses the history of how only the church could really know reality but science (Natural Philosophy as it was called until the 1800s) could study an explain phenomenon in terms of other phenomenon as long as it didn't tread on religion. It's great material. But you combine it with the other course, then the combination becomes superb.
Date published: 2016-10-06
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Loved It I thoroughly enjoyed this course. I found it Educational, Engaging and Entertaining, it has caused me to reevaluate and reconsider a lot of things I took for granted with out ever really having considered how they might be misinterpretations of events made for the purposes of simplicity and congruence. The trial of Galileo the The Scopes Trial etc.
Date published: 2016-09-15
Rated 4 out of 5 by from excellent course Although this was only twelve lectures it was to the point and gave the best perspective of the subject I have ever encountered.
Date published: 2016-07-28
Rated 5 out of 5 by from A whole new view Brings a whole new perspective on the relationship between Science and Religion. Before completing this course, I had a view of the relationship seriously skewed by current conditions. The common view of the relationship between science and religion is driven more by a few very loud voices rather than the general consensus. This course is one of the most informative that I have enjoyed.
Date published: 2016-06-12
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Not at Odds I enjoyed Prof. Principe's lecture on the history of science and religion from St. Augusta up to present day. His 30min lectures on Fundamentalism and Darwin: Responses to Evolution (lecture 10 & 11) are concluded by renouncing 'extremists' on both sides. I enjoyed listening to his passion for Newton, Boyle, St. Augusta, and Georges Lemaître. Highly educational and enjoyable topic!
Date published: 2016-05-05
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Science and Christian Theology I do recommend this course to those interested in both science and Christian theology. The course focus is summarized by Professor Principe's repeated statement that, "Medieval theologians saw no conflict between science and religion." I especially liked the chapter on St. Augustine, which I relate to as the earliest time when Christian theology began to merge with natural philosophy. One thing that is clear to me is that Professor Principe is an academic. He has little empathy for non-academics. For example, at one point, in response to a mantra of modern grassroots groups, "Let's return to that old time religion." he argues that medieval, academic, theology is, "that old time religion." Well, what happened to the centuries of Christianity that existed before that period? What about the grassroots beginnings of Christianity? Throughout this course he stresses the formal academic rigor of Christian theology. I think this approach is entirely valid, especially given the limitation of twelve lectures. Science is very much an academic pursuit, religion not necessarily so. It may not be valid to contrast the academic rigor of science with grassroots religious beliefs. Still I felt that the professor's attitude sometimes touched on arrogance. That is my only complaint about this course.
Date published: 2016-04-11
Rated 3 out of 5 by from Disappointing treatment of issue This course is not about science and religion, it is about some historical complicstions related to theology`s problems with some scientists, and only Christian theology at that. The lecturer never really comes to grips with the current rise of fundamentalist denialism of scientific truth - both by evangelical Christians and radicsl Islamists. His preoccupation with THEOLOGY, mostly Catholic, is glaringly obvious in the final lecture, where he admits to having been lecturing about "science and theology" - not religion. So the course should be less misleadingly titled - perhaps something like "Science and Christian Theology" - and described as dealing with some of the sillier historical aspects of the controversy.
Date published: 2016-03-11
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Good Course which Left Me Wanting More Excellent teacher. Felt that a few major issues were left out. Need some more on topic. Glad I purchased it.
Date published: 2016-02-21
Rated 5 out of 5 by from "And" not 'V" audio download version The title of the course gives us a clue as to professor Principe's perspective and the approach that his course will take. Dr. Principe is interested in the interrelationship and interplay between science and religion over the ages, not the seeming war between science and religion. While my academic background is in physics and math, I have had a long, but undisciplined fascination with philosophy and religions of various types. My interest has only increased as I have traveled from being a mostly skeptical mainstream Protestant to arriving somewhere along the secular humanist/agnostic spectrum. My interests and background make this course an obvious choice for me and to be accurate, I find the subject so compelling, I'd probably give it a good review, even if there was some fault to be found with professor Principe's delivery, logic, course content or order. But I find none (or at least very little). Now I knew nothing about the professor's background or religious beliefs, other than what was provided in the course material. Unlike many reviewers, I did not find this course nor the way it was presented to be indicative of his belief system. And unlike some reviewers I did not find a Catholic bias in the course. Of course it could well seem that way, as for much of the first few lectures, religious references had to be made to Catholic theologians, at least until Martin Luther. Anyone who has studied St. Augustin, especially "The City of God" must come away with a great deal of respect for his considered ideas as to including new insights about the physical world into biblical passages. I was also impressed with his ability to put beliefs, science (or natural philosophy) and theology into context of the time where they were being considered. This was especially true of the lectures devoted to the heliocentric model and evolution. His views as to why the fundamentalists have pushed back so hard against scientific views in general and evolution in specific in the modern era were eye opening, and ones that I am still considering. As an aside, I find it quite amusing that many of the less than favorable reviews, mostly by apparently non-believers use much the same rhetoric as do some of the believers who take issue with Dr. Ehrman's course, "How Jesus Became God" (at least most of the negative ones here seem to be a bit more rational). To the point that in both cases, at least one person in each case made a review without actually having listened to the course. As a further aside, I think that Ukko's comments are spot on. Very highly recommended
Date published: 2016-01-16
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Prepare to be Surprised My background is in philosophy and languages, so I thought I came to this course with minimal preconceptions. Not so! Professor Principe demonstrated again and again certain erroneous ideas that I'd picked up somewhere, and that other moderately or well-educated customers probably have as well. Points on which I was enlightened included: * For much of Western history, science and religion were intertwined rather than at odds. * Theologians have used sophisticated and intellectually respectable forms of reasoning in support of the intertwining of science and religion. * Protestantism and Catholicism have had very divergent responses to Darwinism and other scientific work. * Historically, most Bible interpretation by theologians did not take Biblical statements as literally true. * It's easy to misunderstand the meaning of "miracles" and their relevance to science. * When you place the Argument from Design in historical context, you understand it differently from the way it's presented in the field of philosophy. * Darwinism has been used to support both the common heritage of mankind and racist views about human differences. * And more. His lecturing style was fluent, intelligent, grounded in specific sources and consistently engaging, On the negative side, I wish he hadn't limited his scope to Christianity. I also wish he wasn't so snide about fundamentalism.
Date published: 2015-09-10
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